PACE-L Archives
Archiver > PACE > 2003-05 > 1052088397
From:
Subject: [PACE-L] John Pace of Middlesex - from Shropshire? - Part 2
Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 18:46:37 EDT
Here is the rest of my email exchange with Gordon Pace of Canada:
wrote:
> "Gordon:
> I was looking at your records of the descendants of Joseph Pace of Prees,
> As you know your DNA study results show that your George was very closely
> related to John Pace of Middlesex. This John appears to be the one who was
> baptised in Hungar's Parish, VA in 1662, son of a John Pace and Mary."
So the father JOHN may have been born in the 1630s or 40s
There are a few John Pace Christenings in the early 1600s in the Prees parish
registers.
I don't know all the children of John of Middlesex Co.
Do you have all the children of this John?
I copied down all the PACE entrys from the Prees PRs on the FamilySearch.org
site
then filled in the detail entry. The John who had a son John, may be one of
these.
18. JOHN PACE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 24 APR 1615 Prees, Shropshire, England
JOHN PACE
Christening: 24 APR 1615 Prees
Father: ROLAND PACE
19. JOHN PACE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 07 JUL 1622 Prees, Shropshire, England
JOHN PACE
Christening: 07 JUL 1622 Prees
Father: ROBERT PACE
20. JOHN PACE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 20 APR 1637 Prees, Shropshire, England
JOHN PACE
Christening: 20 APR 1637 Prees
Father: JOHN PACE
21. JOHN PACE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 20 JUN 1650 Prees, Shropshire, England
JOHN PACE
Christening: 20 JUN 1650 Prees
Father: JOHN PACE
22. JOHN PACE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 03 OCT 1651 Prees, Shropshire, England
JOHN PACE
Christening: 03 OCT 1651 Prees
Father: JOHN PACE
23. JOHN PACE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Death: 15 DEC 1660
24. JOHN PACE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 27 APR 1652 Prees, Shropshire, England
JOHN PACE
Christening: 27 APR 1652 Prees, Shropshire, England
Death: 15 DEC 1660
Father: GIDDION PACE
25. JOHN PACE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 09 JUL 1709 Prees, Shropshire, England
JOHN PACE
Christening: 09 JUL 1709 Prees
Father: ROWLAND PACE
Mother: MARY
> "Nothing is known about this older John but the DNA results imply that he
> must have come from Shropshire. Perhaps he was an older brother of Joseph."
>
I think Joseph and John were likely brothers. Joseph may have been older,
judging by the Christening dates. They both show on the WROCKWARDINE parish
registers, in the same decades, 1660 - 1670. There is not enough info from
the parish registers to determine where either Joseph or John settled. Their
Christenings were in the towns of Wrockwardin, Wellington & Rodington. These
three towns are about 4 to 8 miles apart and about 12 miles south of PREES
and about 8 or 10 miles west of SHERIFFHALES.
> "Is anything known about this Joseph?"
I don't know any more. There seemed to be some movement. I found another
Christening of an ANN PACE 02 NOV 1655 at Roddington Shropshire- father
Joseph
> "It would be very interesting if we could find a living male Pace descendant
> of William Cherrington Pace to participate in the DNA study, to see if
> these two Shropshire lines are closely related.
> Gordon W. Pace"
I'll send this now, and have a look again. The absence of Marriage details
makes it difficult to draw any conclusion on a John and Mary marriage prior
to 1662
Just looking at the choice of Christian names seems to indicate a closeness.
I put the three families on the Prees page in three columns
<A HREF="http://www.phc.igs.net/~gordpace/uk/prees.htm#brothers">http://www.phc.igs.net/~gordpace/uk/prees.htm#brothers</A>
--
Gord Pace - Ontario Canada
<A HREF="http://www.phc.igs.net/~gordpace/uk/prees.htm">http://www.phc.igs.net/~gordpace/uk/prees.htm</A>
This thread: